A farewell ‘Titus Andronicus’
THEATER PREVIEW
Greg Taber, whose dedication to Woodward Shakespeare Festival over the years has heated up half a dozen Fresno theater summers, is stepping down as executive producer after he finishes the last production of the season. For that milestone he decided to direct Shakespeareโs brutal and little performed โTitus Andronicus,โ with Jay Parks in the title role. I caught up with Taber, known for his commitment to theater that nourishes the intellect, to talk a little about the play, which opens Thursday, Aug. 3.

Revenge: Rene Ponce, left, and Jay Parks, right, who plays the title role in Woodward Shakespeare Festival’s “Titus Andronicus.” Photo / Victor DesRoches
Q: You mention in your director’s note that most people don’t know anything about “Titus Andronicus.” As you try to generate interest in your production this summer, what’s your 30-second pitch to people about the show?
A: Whatโs your story of righteous vengeance? Whatโs the story youโd tell yourself if you were to imagine the worst things that could happen to those you love? What would you do in the throes of that life-shattering madness? โTitus Andronicusโ is a classic Elizabethan revenge tragedy made intimately personal by Shakespeareโs genius and the the talent of this cast and crew. If you donโt mind getting your hands a little dirty, this is theater you donโt want to miss.
Q: For those who like a traditional plot synopsis, give us one that’s short and sweet.
A: With a little help from the Royal Shakespeare Company: The brothers Saturninus and Bassianus are in contention for the Roman emperorship.Titus Andronicus, Rome’s most honored general, returns from wars against the Goths with their queen, Tamora, her sons and her lover, Aaron the Moor, as captives. Her eldest son is sacrificed by Titus; she vows revenge. Titus is nominated emperor by his brother, Marcus, one of Romeโs tribunes. Titus declines, nominating Saturninus, who accepts. To seal the bond of friendship, the new emperor, Saturnius, offers to marry Titus’s daughter Lavinia. She, however, is already pledged to Bassianus. Saturninus, by now infatuated with Tamora, makes her empress instead. Manipulated by Aaron, Tamora’s sons, Chiron and Demetrius, avenge their mother by raping and mutilating Lavinia, and killing Bassianus. Aaron falsely implicates Titusโs son, Lucius, in the murder. In his turn Titus vows revenge and sends Lucius to the Goths to raise an army. Titus achieves his revenge by killing Tamora’s sons and serving them up to her at a banquet. In the aftermath, Saturninus and Titus are both killed.

Knifepoint: Harrison Mills and Heather Gibeson in Woodward Shakespeare Festival’s “Titus Andronicus.” Photo / Victor DesRoches
Q: The play is bloody. Really bloody. Even reading the extended synopsis makes me slightly woozy. (In terms of the original text, there are between one and three rapes, 14 deaths, three severed limbs, two severed heads, one severed tongue, one live burial, one near infanticide and at least one clear act of cannibalism.) You remind us that some audience members at a recent Globe Theatre production fainted because of the violence. As director, you had to decide how graphic the play should be. What was your thought process?
A: Theater should not compete with film/TV in terms of realism. Itโs a losing proposition and, finally, cheapens the medium by trying to reduce it to something it isnโt. The Globe production, whatever its successes, was fundamentally un-theatrical and would have better served its audience on a screen rather than in a live setting. The 2006 Royal Shakespeare/Yukio Ninagawa production, with its highly stylized violence and gore was, based on my reading, far more penetrating and compelling, as opposed to simply being ghastly. With our production, Iโve opted for an approach that relies on using light and sound to establish a highly suggestive atmosphere in which the actors can create everything necessary through the clarity, detail, and depth of their work.
Q: You’re known at Woodward Shakespeare for heavily cutting some works to give them a more forceful, modern sensibility. (Your “Macbeth” comes to mind.) Is this the case with “Titusโ?
A: The short answer is yes. What I try to do with every production that I direct is to find the best way to create a possibility of experience for the audience that will see it. With the Shakespeare that I have done, that means defining the specific story that Iโm telling, paring away everything that doesnโt contribute to that story, and then enhancing that story in any way that I can. Combine that with a fondness for a minimalist aesthetic that requires everything from the music to the lights to the sets, props, and costumes to be just what they need to be with a preference for symbolism over realism, and you tend to find yourself cutting, combining, and rearranging things to one degree or other. โMacbeth,โ โRichard III,โ โRomeo and Julietโ and โHamletโ (the last two with Theatre Ventoux last year) all did this more or less successfully, and โTitusโ continues that practice.
Q: Have you ever directed or been involved with “Titus” before? If not, was this on your bucket list?
A: Before studying the production history of the play in preparation for directing it, my only experience was Julie Taymorโs film with Anthony Hopkins as Titus. I donโt think the comedic elements of the film work very well, but itโs one of Hopkinsโ finer performances. The production I wish I had seen was from the late 1980s and was directed by Deborah Warner with Brian Cox in the titular role. So, I guess itโs not been a bucket-list production, per se, though I am proud of the fact that it seems to be the only Fresno-area production of the play ever attempted.
What I have realized with โTitusโ is that I seem to have a fascination with madness. Macbeth, Richard III, Romeo, Hamlet, and Titus all struggle against some form of madness in its broadest and most life-shattering sense. In that sense, I suppose Titus is just the latest incarnation of something or other thatโs running around inside of me. I also see Titus, both the character and the play, as a proto-Lear, and, since Iโm planning a re-visit of โKing Learโ next year with Theatre Ventoux, maybe thereโs even more of a connection to some overall theme in my work. I suppose time will tell.
Q: Talk about Parks in the leading role.
A: The wonderful thing about directing Jay is that he works his roles; he works them hard. His training was at UC Berkeley, he is very serious about his work, and it shows in the depth and nuance of his performance. At the same time, he has been extremely amenable to finding the middle ground between how he sees a character (or even an entire show) and how I see it. Iโm fairly flexible myself (always open to whatever will make the show better), and so our conception of the character really just grew out of working things on the rehearsal floor. This is the fifth play Iโve directed Jay in and itโs worked that way every time.

Somber moment: Kenia Morales, left, Rene Ponce and Jessica Reedy in “Titus Andronicus.” Photo / Victor DesRoches
Q: Do you think the play is most dominantly about revenge? Or something else?
A: โTitusโ is a classic revenge tragedy. Establish hero. Make bad things happen to hero. Hero wreaks havoc on those who did bad things. Hero dies. The end. The genius of Shakespeare is the depth of possibilities that he affords an actor in terms of finding out whatโs underneath all of that well-worn plot. Itโs still common to say of Shakespeare that itโs all in the text, but thatโs not accurate, at all — itโs all beneath the text. Shakespeare only gives us the words they say, so itโs up to us to make choices about precisely who is saying these words, why they are saying them, and what else they might mean by them.
Consider:
Edward Albee writes: “Martha (still softly): I said, make me a drink.
George (Moving to the portable bar) Well, I don’t suppose a nightcap’d kill either one of usโฆโ
And while โWhoโs Afraid of Virginia Woolfโ is a brilliant play, pretty much every George and Martha is pretty much every other George and Martha with the differences being largely a matter of the individual actorโs capacity to perform what Albee has written. The same is true of Miller, OโNeill, Mamet, and most any modern playwright youโd care to name.
Shakespeare writes in โHamletโ: โTo be, or not to be, that is the question.โ And we get Gielgud, Evans, Olivier, Burton, Warner, Jacobi, Pryce, Branagh, Tenant, Kinnear, Cumberbatch, and Hiddleston. And thatโs just a sampling of the male, British, caucasian Hamlets. Then thereโs Kline, Hawke, Lester, Bernhardt, Peakes and so many, many more including our own locals, Brooke Aiello and Broderic Beard. And every one of those Hamlets was fundamentally different. Same words. Same story. Different character. Different show.
So, is Titus about revenge? You bet it is. In all of its vicious and bloody glory, but because itโs Shakespeare, and because we can, and far more importantly because of the courage of these actors in doing the harder work of making their own choices, itโs about the profound and terrible impact of these horrific events on their lives.
Q: Tell us about your decision to step down.
A: In six years as executive producer, Iโve very willingly invested a tremendous amount of time and energy into WSF. That is, of course, time and energy that hasnโt been available for other things. Iโve decided itโs time to make it available for such things. Evenings home. Embarrassing myself in karate class. Sharks games. Giants games (OK, maybe not so much lately.) Weekends home. Acting in plays for anyone who might cast me. A Theatre Ventoux production here and there. Seeing what I can do to assist R.S. Scott and the Fresno Soap Co. in the work that theyโre doing. Finally watching the last three episodes of โAmerican Gods,โ season four of โSherlock,โ and re-watching โTaboo,โ along with about a hundred other things. Hanging out with the family. Books. Itโs just time to move on.

Revenge served cold: Joshua Taber and Heather Gibeson in “Titus Andronicus.” Photo / Victor DesRoches
The new board/executive team and I donโt exactly see eye to eye on things and so itโs time to pass it on. Iโve done a bunch of shows, learned a lot, made some improvements, made some mistakes, learned more, had some successes, had some failures, learned even more, worked with some absolutely amazing people and more than a handful of donkeys. Itโs been life: good, bad, neat, messy, all of that. But Iโm done with it. Time to move on.
As far as I know, they plan to keep doing shows. Theyโre putting together a new board and executive team and making plans for next season. Beyond that, youโd really have to speak to whomever is taking over my job.
Q: I feel I need to reiterate the point that even when it’s really hot in Fresno, by evening at the festival stage it’s cooled down. Can you elaborate?
A: It was something like 106 the other day. At 8 that same evening, out at the WSF stage, it was about 10 degrees cooler, there was a wonderful little breeze wafting around, and the most beautiful sunset in all of Fresno was happening right before my eyes. You canโt get that sitting inside. WSF is Shakespeare in the park. No one else in Fresno is doing what weโre doing and weโre doing it as our gift to Fresno. So maybe itโs a not a cool 76 degrees. Itโs mighty comfortable and thereโs nothing like it from LA to the Bay Area.
Q: Anything else you’d like to say?
A: In the past six years Iโve produced, directed and/or acted in 23 plays. All of them had something wonderful about them, usually a performance here or there. A few of them were just OK. Most were good, solid community theatre productions. A small handful came together just right and were astonishing pieces of theater. None of them would have been possible or worthwhile without my family: Kayla, Broderic, Sharon, Megan, Joshua, and, most of all, Lisa. VLB.
Show info
“Titus Andronicus” opens 8 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 3,ย Woodward Shakespeare Festival Stage, Woodward Park. Continues 8 p.m. Thursdays-Saturdays through Aug. 26. General admission is free; $10 reserved tickets in the first two rows are available online. $5 per car park entry fee applies.
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thejunkyardangel
I’ve heard several people suggest that WSF is the only free, outdoor Shakespeare between LA and SF. Just want to remind everyone that Merced Shakespearefest does the same thing, literally less than an hour away. Their next show is Twelfth Night in September.
Greg Taber
My understanding was that they charged admission. Thank you for the correction.
Stephen Mintz
1. Congrats and Kudos to Greg Taber.
2. Shakespeare probably only wrote or co-wrote a small portion of Titus.
3. This is like the fourth executive director of WSF who has had major difficulties with the executive board.
A board member’s role is to Get (money), Give (money, or Get Out.
A board’s responsibility is to hire an artistic director and then get out of their way.
This board hires “executive directors.” An ED has to create and present a budget, work within that budget, run the organization, and answer at all times to the board.
I wish the board would separate the positions. Hire an ED to handle the budget, hire and fire, produce, and operate the shows within the budget.
THEN hire and trust an artistic director who has nothing to do with the budget. Let this person choose the season, create the shows, and hire any artists necessary.
The AD oversees the shows. The ED handles the venue, advertising, etc.
The board gets the money and may collaborate on a vision. But then they get the heck out of the way and enjoy the fancy champagne receptions.
O’ how’t ought to be.
Cuz I’m tired of reading about every single motivated theatre person in Fresno giving of their time and energy just to be essentially run off by a board who think they know better.
Note: I’ve based this post simply on media coverage and heresay. But no one can convince me that Eric and Adam and Heather and now Greg don’t know theatre in Fresno better than just about anyone this side of Dan Pessano and Joel Abels.